Thursday, December 5, 2013

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Below is the original post written by Nokia1 from cari forum. This post was later, moved to hidden board by cari forum's admin due to unknown reason. Translation coming soon....

[原创]【警惕外汇老千】OFX Global,OFX group Limited,连IBS高层也没办回答的各种不合法疑问


小弟加入这个老千公司已经接近一年了,在这当中,我看了很多。。。。从懵懵懂懂到现在完全清醒,从他们说自己是OFX Global到他们变成OFX Group Ltd。。。再到现在变成IBS。。。。(一间公司竟然对外换了几次名字,我竟然还傻傻相信,笨啊~~~)

I've joined this forex broker for almost a year and I'd like to share my experience here... From OFX Global to IBS (and i actually believe in a company that simply change their name for no reason, how stupid am i ...)


我今天写这篇,最主要是想警惕即将要加入的人,给与你们忠告,真的不能天真的以为投资外汇能赚钱,其实这个只是一个money game,上面的人不断拉人进来,然后他们赚的钱都是抽下面的人的钱的。。。单单一个月上那个老师的讲座,就相信外汇能赚钱?而且。。。IBS里面当中的 人,根本是读书不高的人,凭我们的学历,要了解外汇?拜托。。。这样那些高学历,花钱去读Financial课程的人不是要去撞墙死?

The main reason i wrote this today is to warn new comer, don't ever think that forex means easy money. This is just another Ponzi scheme that lure you into believing it and make you work harder for them by getting more people or friends around you into the pyramid.... Start making money by just attending some basic 1 day courses organized by an experienced trader? And most of the investers in IBS do not actually pursuade high level education. If we could master forex with these conditions, ain't those degree or master degree holder in finance or marketing should kill themselves?

曾经。。。我很天真,以为我遇到IBS是命运的转折点。。。
曾经。。。我很天真,以为我这个中学成绩烂到不行的人可以学外汇
曾经。。。我很天真,以为我的上线是好心希望我能赚钱而带我进入IBS
当你们看到小弟这篇文章,并去问你们的上线的时候,他们一定会和你说。。。是有同行嫉妒你们,所以散播留言(我上线以前也是这样跟我说),所以今天,我要把握找到的证据都放上来,由你们自己去判断,这到底是中伤还是事实!!

I was so naive to believe that IBS is the turning point in my life...
I was so naive to believe that people who failed their secondary school exam could learn Forex...
I was so naive to believe that the guy who brought me in was actually trying to help me financially....
If you're reading this right now and confront your introducer, answers you'll most likely to get are simple: "they jealous you lah! rumours lah! (that's what my introducer told me too) so i'll just share with you guys and you'll be the judge.

1)从我第一天加入开始,我只知道公司来自纽西兰,叫OFX Global,就连他们印给我的名片都是这样写的,有图为证:

since the first day i joined, all i know was the broker, OFX Global, was based in New Zealand. This is the name card they printed for me: 

过后开始有听人说,原来 OFX Global在纽西兰是一间已经被冻结的公司,链接如下:
http://www.business.govt.nz/company-search/companydetails/3845356
我也有把照片拍上来,不知道struck off的意思不要紧,去google找就有了Struck Off = 除名/冻结,就是说公司是不存在的,是不能运作的!!

eventually i heard from someone that this was a company no longer in operation a.k.a. struck off company:
http://www.business.govt.nz/company-search/companydetails/3845356


2)当时我还傻傻不当一回事,觉得有钱赚就好了,管他什么公司都不要紧,不久~他们又把名字换去OFX Group Limited (说这个才是母公司),结果,还是被人踢爆,这间公司也是在纽西兰被冻结了的。。。链接如下:
http://www.business.govt.nz/company-search/companydetails/2457048

i wasn't bothering about it then and thought as long as i can make money, why care. Later, they changed their name to OFX Group Limited (and claimed that this was the parent company).

进入网页后,请往下拉,你会看到Document Registered,然后你们选 Non-Active Declaration Form,下载来看,你就会看到,其实这间公司已经跟政府上交文件说,他们已经关闭了。。。Non-Active的意思就是完全没有生意上的交易了!!也就是说,他们不存在的公司,是不可以有交易的。。。

Turned out to be another company with Non-Activity Declaration Form under their belt...

3)到后来,他们又换了一堆名片给我,公司名又换成IBS了,当时我还被姐姐取笑说,我凭什么叫Marketing Consultant,当时以为自己很威风,现在才知道“丑”字怎么写!(当时公司一直换名字,我还没发现其实一间公司一直换名字是有问题的,还继续天真下去)
Eventually i was given another stack of name cards with the name IBS on it, that's how i got teased by my elder sister. "You? Marketing Consultant? ha, fat dream!" (and i should have realised that only a fishy company keeps changing name)

姐姐偷偷去查看我名片上公司的地址,结果回来她跟我说,这个Building的保安跟她说,没听过这里有这间公司!她还特地拍了照片给我看这个unit B-19-3的公司名字叫SINAR AKI SDN BHD,根本没有什么IBS。。。
她还酸我,连公司都没去过,就做了人家的Marketing Consultant!!

My sister actually took the trouble to pay my office a visit and the answer she got from the security personnel is there's no such company! 

"A marketing consultant that never been to your office? ha!", that's what i got from my sister.


4)之前两间叫OFX的公司,远在纽西兰,并已经由纽西兰政府网页证实了,公司是不存在的!!
现在我们来看看。。。这间所谓的IBS培训公司,在马来西亚又是怎么样的底细。。。。
这个文件是由马来西亚注册公司管理局SSM提供的,白纸黑字,不能造假的,不信的话你们也可以去SSM查的,我看到这份东西时,差点要吐血。。。
请大家看仔细。。。
a. 我加入公司快一年,这间公司却在今年4月才成立的?????!!!
b.注册上的地址和名片上的不符

c.这间公司的总资产原来只有RM100!!!这两个注册人我都不懂是谁来的,我只知道他们一人只拿了RM50出来行骗!!


d.他们去年的帐目,是亏损的公司来的,亏了接近RM15,000!!不是很厉害讲外汇赚钱吗??怎么这公司亏了那么大数目??!!

小弟我,因为盲目相信我的朋友,跟父母和姐姐借了RM15,000来加入这个外汇投资的,现在,我找不到下面的人来抽水钱,自己的钱也亏得七七八八了,还给他们锁住一部分的钱了(我到今时今日才知道,原来正规的外汇公司是没权利扣住你的钱的),我真的无脸见爹娘啊~~

而且,我私下也问过其他伙伴,原来大家都是亏钱的多!真真能赚到钱的是,不断拉人进来,然后抽他们的佣金,其实最好赚的,就是上面的人!
真心提醒,最近这个IBS的势力扩大了许多,如果最近你身边有朋友在投资外汇,并说要分享给你听,请千万要小心。不要被他们的甜言蜜语吸引而掉下圈套,不然,你就成为下一个被抽水钱的“水鱼”了。。。

如果有IBS的伙伴看到我这篇文章,你们去质问你们的上线的话,他们会用很多谎言来模糊你的焦点,过几天。。。我会再分享,我如何从骗局中清醒地经过给大家知道!!如果有任何人觉得我在造谣伤害IBS,欢迎留言反驳以上种种白纸黑字的证据!
以下是当初 IBS给我签的所谓的Agreement,老实说,小弟读书不多。。。我当初真的傻傻没看清楚内容就签了,有哪位大大能帮忙看看内容是什么吗?还有,请看 看他们的这张Agreement,名字的部分全都是自助式自己填上去的,我姐看了骂得我半死,也就是说。。。任何人拿到这张Agreement,那个名字 那边填阿猪阿狗的名字都可以的!!然后这张东西也没提到我放了RM15k进去,也就是我连基本的收据都没有!!我姐骂我是猪是对的!!